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Bryan Greenwell Interrogation Transcript

On May 13, 2016,  Bryan Greenwell (also known as Brian Greenwall) shot and killed Jennifer Cain and critically wounded Derrell Wilson. Greenwell’s fiancé Jodie Cecil was there when the crime happened in a Shelby Park apartment. The living victim, Wilson, was crucial in the investigation. When police showed the couple an interview where Wilson implicates them in the crime while he is in poor condition in the hospital, they both admit their involvement. A summary of the case can be found here.  

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Bryan Greenwell Interrogation Transcript

[door slams]

Investigator: Hey Bryan, what’s happenin’ man?

Bryan Greenwell:  What’s happenin’?

Investigator: My name is detective Royce, [inaudible]. Sorry it took me a little while to get over here..

Bryan Greenwell: [inaudible]

Investigator: Talking to Jodie.

Bryan Greenwell: Jodie?

Investigator: Mm-hm.

Bryan Greenwell: How she been doing?

Investigator: She’s a little upset.

Bryan Greenwell: About what?

Investigator: Well, that’s what we’re here to talk about. She’s a little upset, um… I want to tell you that she, I’m trying to remember her exact words but it was more along the lines of “I don’t want to tell him, I don’t want him to be scared, and uh, to talk to us.” Anything else along that. “Cause I want to, I want to go talk to him”, I said “I can’t let you do that, I may be able to let you do a recorded statement or write a note but”

Bryan Greenwell: So she wrote one down?

Investigator: I have a recording. Also, I have another recording that I would like you to review as well but I can’t ask you any questions yet because you’re in custody for something else. I don’t know. I know it’s some kind of dope charge, I know you did some stuff there. So before I actually ask you anything, tell you or show you anything, I have to read you your rights. You’ve had those read before, correct?

Bryan Greenwell: No.

Investigator: You’ve never had your rights read?!

Bryan Greenwell: No. I mean, when I was younger, yeah.

Investigator: Alright so you know what I’m talking about.

Bryan Greenwell:  I know what you’re talking about, yeah.

Investigator: Well, I’m going to go through this, and I brought a picture of your kiddos. [places photo of children on table in front of Greenwell] I gave her a picture of them, too. Alright before we ask you any questions you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in court of law. Right to talk to a lawyer prior to questioning or making any statements. Have them present with you while being questioned. Can’t afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed by the court to represent you before any questions if you desire one. You may stop the questioning or making statements at any time by refusing to answer further or requesting to consult with an attorney prior to continuing questioning or making statements. Those are your rights. And the second part of this form is just a waiver of your rights and basically says that “I read the statement of rights or had them read to me. I understand what my rights are and I’m willing to make a statement and answer some questions. I don’t want a lawyer at this time and I understand what I am doing. No promises or threats have been made, no pressure or coercion of any kind. You understand what coercion means, correct? [Greenwell nods] Okay, um. And I’m guessing you might have an idea what [Greenwell shakes head “no”] You don’t have an idea of what you might want to talk to me about?

Bryan Greenwell: No.

Investigator: Or what I want to talk to you about? Okay. And it has to do with the apartment you guys used to live at over on Shelby Street.

Bryan Greenwell: Oh, well, yeah….

Investigator: Does that ring a bell? That incident?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: What do you know about that incident?

Bryan Greenwell: As far as I know, that was supposed to been us, as far as my understanding. Just the guy, Terry Payne [spelling?] that uh, he was supposed to send somebody over to talk to us or something like that. I don’t know, ‘cause they said, well I know the guy too you know, they said something like that. And I’m not even sure if it’s him, you know what I’m sayin’? I’m just going off of what I’ve heard. That he got ripped off for some dope a few times. He got upset about it and the only reason why he wouldn’t come confront her by herself was because of me. Well, she never ripped him off for no dope anyways. It wasn’t her, it was

Investigator: So this was geared towards Jodie, is what you’re telling me?

Bryan Greenwell: Yes. And as far as I know somebody was supposed to send some people from Chicago, some black dudes. Said it’s not about the money now, it’s not about the dope, it’s about the principle. And he, Terry Payne [spelling?] told me this, and I told him I said “you better go back and tell them [inaudible] got no principle [inaudible] it seems like I’m just fucking around with my fiancée and it pulls me, you know what I’m saying? I’m involved. And he said “sorry, too late [inaudible], the call’s been made and that uh, people from .. what’d he say? New Orleans or something like that, up in luisiana up here looking for her. That’s when I noticed we started getting followed. And I’m like “hold up, you know maybe this shit is true”. I’ve been thinking it’s all, you know how people talkin’ just trying to scare somebody. And I kept noticing people following me and kept noticing people following me. And I’m like “hold the fuck up” you know? So I made a phone call and was like “dude, what the fucks going on?” He said “man” he said “I told you I would try to go talk to them”. I said “dude, you already [inaudible] tried to go talk to them and for the past, I don’t know, month and a half, something like that, everytime I walked out the door I was being followed”. And for the life of me, nobody believed me. And I mean, I told everybody. I said “man, somebody is following us. Somebody is following me or somebody is following you. Somebody.” Then I got locked up.

Investigator: What happened with that, a little.

Bryan Greenwell: That [cross talk]

Investigator: I’m not the dope police [cross talk]

Bryan Greenwell: I mean not one time did nobody ever say “police”, nobody said, I mean the whole time I told everybody I was being followed. I mean, I had people run up on me, I’d take off. Nobody said “cops” you know? So I don’t know if it’s the cops or if it was them or whoever, whatever. You know what I’m saying?  I’m like “shit”, so I done what I do. What I know best- protect myself and get the hell out of that situation for a moment. But that situation it was same thing. Two cars whipped up on me, then once I took off, yeah, he hit his lights. I’m like “I got a set of [inaudible] lights, which I do. You know what I’m saying? I got a flashlight that turns. You know what I’m saying? You click it one time and it starts flashing, you know what I mean, red, white, red, blue, them lights. You know what I’m saying? So I’m like “no one’s ever said ‘stop, police, this is the local, feds” whoever. You know what I’m saying?  So I didn’t stop. Even when we got back to the house we were staying at, not one time did anybody say “police”, “this is the police”, the whoever, blah blah. They just told me to get the fuck down or they would blow my damn brains out. I’m like “well uh” there’s a chance I got to take. Either they’re the police, and then once they started all coming up on me I noticed it was the police because all the equipment and shit like that. And I was like “well, maybe this is the cops” so I got down.

Investigator: Who all did you get arrested with that night?

Bryan Greenwell: Me, Jodie, Lala, and Chris.

Investigator: Does Lala have a real name? Everybody keeps saying Lala. Cause I’m not the dope police, I’m just curious

Bryan Greenwell: It’s uh, Laura. It’s Laura. I don’t know her last name.

Investigator: And it really doesn’t matter for me. I’m just curious because everyone says “Lala” and I’m like, “last time someone was named ‘LaLa’ was on a kids T.V. show” [laughter] Alright. Let me take you back to that apartment on Shelby. How long did ya’ll stay there?

Bryan Greenwell: Man, I can’t, I just got out of jail. I don’t know if she had that before I went in, or before right before I got out, or what. I think I was only there a couple weeks, maybe? Something like that. Maybe a little longer. I know it was like between two, two weeks. Two to three weeks. Something like that.

Investigator: And you guys never went back to that apartment?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, we went back.

Investigator: You did?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah. We went back and got some of our stuff. I mean, we’ve seen the landlord and nothing was ever said.  We’ve seen cops sitting there and nothing was ever said to us. And I was thinking “well, this aint got nothing to do with us, I hope”

Investigator: Did you know those neighbors [inaudible]? Ya’ll never, You ever seen them before?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, we’ve seen them in passing.

Investigator: If I showed you a picture of them, would you know who they are?

Bryan Greenwell: Pretty sure I would be.

Investigator: [shows photos]

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, yeah, that was her. Now the guy?

Investigator: Now this is a little older picture. I think he had probably just got done [inaudible]. His hair may have been a lot longer.

Bryan Greenwell: Hm, yeah. If you put long hair on him it looks like him.

Investigator: So you all didn’t have any interaction with them?

Bryan Greenwell: Nah, other than I mean, passing in the hallways or, it was just, I think it was what? One, two, two  [crosstalk] yeah. Because it was the front room, it was like a little storage or something like that. The back room was supposedly where he stored all his stuff for, I guess, the strip clubs that he owned or something. I don’t know.

Investigator: Mm-Hm. It was strip clubs, you’re right. Alright, um, what do you actually know about what happened over there? What have you heard? What do you know?

Bryan Greenwell: I just heard that somebody got shot, somebody got killed or something like that. Then we stayed away for a couple days because that’s when I found out that supposedly they were there for her, and us, you know what I’m saying? It was supposed to be us. I was like, you know, um, we made the decision to stay away for a couple of days because hell, somebody wanted to talk to her they, the landlord knew her phone number, her cell phone number, knew her name, everything else. Nobody ever tried to contact us. At least, as far as I know, nobody ever tried to contact us. Which I mean the house, the apartment wasn’t even, it was her apartment, wasn’t in my name, or nothing like that.

Investigator: Right. Alright. Did you know that there were two victims there? Did you know that?

Bryan Greenwell: No.

Investigator: Both of those two people I showed you.

Bryan Greenwell: No, they told me it was just the.. uh.. lady.

Investigator: Well, both of them were shot. And uh, this is what I want to show you.

[Investigator moves laptop over to Greenwell and moves his chair closer]

Investigator: He didn’t die.

Voice on recording: Do you remember, do you know your neighbors next door? [inaudible] Did you know who they were? If I showed you pictures of your neighbors would you know who they were? Where your neighbors involved in any of this? You recognize her? That Jodie? Your Neighbor?

Investigator: So. That’s just the start of it but

Bryan Greenwell: Okay, well lets finish it.

Investigator: No, I got a, I got a couple follow ups here.

Bryan Greenwell: Okay.

Investigator: When I showed Jodie this, she lost it.

Bryan Greenwell: She lost it like?

Investigator: Bawling crying, broke down.

Bryan Greenwell: Let me guess, said that we done it.

Investigator: She did.

Bryan Greenwell: Well.

Investigator: And before you know, I am going to tell her the same thing I told her, I said “ya’ll have some important things in front of you.” I said, “bad things happen to good people. Sometimes people get put into situations and shit didn’t go as planned.” Um, I believe that’s what happened here. I don’t think there was malicious intent going in. I think things escalated and went bad. I told her I wanted to help her try to get to the good side of this and to not paint her into a negative light on it. And I said, I told her, I said I will give you that same opportunity and tell you the same things that I have told you both the exact same things. And that’s how I want to present it. I don’t bullshit people, I’ll tell you what I’ve got. I mean…

Bryan Greenwell: Fair enough.

Investigator: I mean, I got a living victim that puts you there. I’ve got Jodie who says you were there. Now I want to hear from you, what in the world happened. Like I said, I think something went wrong, I don’t think you got there on

Bryan Greenwell: I want to hear the rest of it. What Jodie had to say.

Investigator: What Jodie had to say? I don’t have Jodie on video.

Bryan Greenwell: I thought you said you had her on

Investigator: I have it on an audio recording. I just did it. I don’t have it on a disk yet. I still have it on an actual recorder.

Bryan Greenwell: Can I hear it?

Investigator: Let me see if I can do that. I don’t even know if I can do that. It’s on this recorder that’s in my pocket right now. The same one I have on right now.

Bryan Greenwell: Well, lets find out if we can do that because, I mean…

Investigator: Is that going to change..

Bryan Greenwell: Nah man, I want to

[cross talk]

Investigator: I’m not going to play it word for word for you so you can hear her story.

Bryan Greenwell: No no no.

Investigator: I’ve been doing this a little longer than that.

Bryan Greenwell: I don’t I don’t expect you to do that either but I would like to know what she’s saying.

Investigator: I can give you the, I can give you the details of, I guess the general of what she’s said. Is that, and he goes on to say that, they were involved in a domestic situation. Then apparently, he may have been getting the best of her, and she came over for help. You guys go back to their apartment, it happened inside their apartment, you guys intervened on the good side of this to start with, trying to help her out. And things went bad from there. Does that sound, is that a fair statement of how things may have occurred?

Bryan Greenwell: No. I mean.

Investigator: It’s not.

Bryan Greenwell: I had no. Yeah, I know these people. I don’t know them personally. You know what I’m saying? I know them from that apartment. And yes, we did go over there. But, that’s it. I mean hell, if you finger print the place you can find my fingerprints on a couple things because where I walked in the room. I kind of picked some stuff up, you know, because it was laying everywhere so I was like [noises from cuffs on table while he demonstrates moving stuff over] I mean, other than that.

Investigator: Alright. I know right now you’re trying to figure out where to go with this. Because I don’t want you to start digging yourself a hole.

Bryan Greenwell:  I know what you want me to do is to commit, you know, say

Investigator: Oh, I don’t need you to, I don’t need you to. I got, you know, I’ve got Jodie’s statement. I have enough to walk out of this room right now. What I’m trying to do is try to give you an opportunity to do the same thing she just did which is go at it with the angle “we were trying to help and things just went bad”.  That’s a whole lot better then just not making a statement and me just going off him. I mean, you think I put a guy who’s paralyzed from the neck down on a ventilator with an interview like this up to twelve people on a jury that they’re not going to sympathize with him instead of you? I’ll take that all day long, twice on Sunday.

Bryan Greenwell: Well, you know [cross talk] I’m looking at it too, I’m like “yeah as it stands right now, I mean, regardless of what I say right now, I’m fucked in this situation.

Investigator: And I’m trying to say there’s a little bit of an out right here to make it better on you to not make it look like… I don’t believe you’re a cold blooded killer. You know? I don’t believe that at all. Nothing suggests that to me. I think you’re a smart guy that got involved with a situation you probably shouldn’t have. Not saying that you shouldn’t help somebody out but I’m saying shit went bad real quick. And I don’t think anybody should be judged on one thing alone, there should be a whole series of events that happened here that get to basically where we are right now. And I just want you to think about a lot of different things. And I know I’ve thrown a lot at you at one time, you know. And I, I, and I can’t say I understand where you’re at right now because I haven’t been there but I can sympathize with you.

Bryan Greenwell: I do this everytime.

Investigator: What do you mean you do this everytime.

Bryan Greenwell: I always try to protect everybody. You get that recorder off for a minute so I can ask you a question?

Investigator: This? Yeah. [shuts laptop]

Bryan Greenwell: And the one in there.

[turns off recorder in pocket and shows Greenwell]

Bryan Greenwell: Nothing else recording, right?

Investigator: I don’t know about this room, this is the corrections room so I would have to say, well, I don’t know.

Bryan Greenwell: What happens if I go with, I mean ‘cause I know the story here, you know what I’m saying? I know the whole thing, what happened

[electronic beep]

Bryan Greenwell: What was that?

Investigator: I’m guessing I just got an email ‘cause this is my actual work computer.

Bryan Greenwell: Well, look, how do I get Jodie off of all of this?

Investigator: I mean, I think, I think she’s the least copiable of anything that happened. You know, I think she was just there. Um, and what he says and what she says really jive in line with the support, they support each other in their statements. Um, but I mean honestly it’s just going through the story, and I think I know the story. If I tell you the story, would it sound anything like what I started it off as. A domestic thing that you guys got involved in, you end up in a fight, with them with a gun and it goes off, and I can’t tell you any more than that because, you know.  By any chance, does that seem like a story that, of what may have happened?

Bryan Greenwell: Yep.

Investigator: You see, we can work with that because the beginning part of it. Because there’s a big difference between you going in and saying “I’m going to f*** kill somebody” and you going in “I’m trying to help somebody” and then shit goes bad. There’s, That’s way different things there that we’re talking about. And one’s a whole lot better than the other. I mean, the end result was that people lost their lives, yes. But it’s a whole lot different when it comes to juries, when talking about charges. You know, those types of things. It’s a night and day situation.

Bryan Greenwell: I would say. Yeah. Like you say, ya’ll would paint me out to be the fucking, wow. I mean, as it stands right now, which is those two saying that shit, you all got enough to convict me on anything.

Investigator: And that’s what I’m saying. I’m not going to bullshit you. I told you that. I got enough right now, I could walk out of the room but that’s not what I want to do because I believe in getting everybody a fair shot at this. Minimum is 18 years. You know, I don’t bullshit when I talk to people. I don’t play that whole mind game or running in circles and we talk for six hours. That’s how you run a guy.  I tell you what I got, I tell you how good, I’m not going to lie if I got something that’s weak. I’m gonna be like “Hey, this is what I got, here’s your chances, fifty fifty.” This is not a fifty fifty chance kinda thing right here, I tell you that.

Bryan Greenwell: No it’s a “screwed me all the way around”

Investigator: That’s why I’m trying to give you, I want you to see how I’m trying to let you get out in front of it. Tell your part of the story on it.

Bryan Greenwell: Is there anyway I could smoke a cigarette?

Investigator: I think we could probably make that happen. We let everybody, everybody else smoke one in the basement. When we come back, finish up the story? I think we could do that. Sit back for a minute. See what we could do for you.

Bryan Greenwell: Uh, regardless of what happens you all can’t … nevermind.

Investigator: [inaudible] I think I know what you’re trying to get out and [inaudible] you don’t want anything to happen to Jodie on this. Does that sound about right?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: I really think that’s going to depend on a lot about what we talk about, what you tell me on this. I think we can minimize her involvement

Bryan Greenwell: [inaudible]

Investigator: Well, I mean like, she is there. I mean, have you ever heard of about, uh, doing a bank robbery.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: You’re the robber, you go in and rob the store. I’m just the driver. We both get in a car chase and get caught down the way. What charge do I get?

Bryan Greenwell: Accessory

Investigator: What charge do you get? It’s a robbery.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: I mean, she’s there with you. So she is a complicit, she’s complicit in this. And not including that, there’s nothing done on her behalf to help, or stay, or call or anything. So that’s her little bit of a problem but her involvement is minimal.

Bryan Greenwell: Its, she did try to.

Investigator: What did she try to do?

Bryan Greenwell: Tried to help.

Investigator: After they were shot? What did she try to do? I mean, this helps her.

Bryan Greenwell: We’ll talk, we’ll talk about it all here in a second. Let me calm down.

Investigator: Okay. Okay. I’ll give you some time, you know, get your stuff in order. See if I can set up that cigarette.

Bryan Greenwell: I appreciate it, thanks.

Investigator: Alright.

[Investigator opens door and talking with someone else]

Bryan Greenwell: A glass of water or somethin’, [inaudible]

Investigator: Yeah.

[Investigator returns to room]

Investigator: Alright, we’re gonna,

Bryan Greenwell: Hey, is Jodie still down there?

Investigator: No, they already took her back to CCC.

Other person: Is there like a count or something they need to do at a certain time or something? I don’t know.

Investigator: We’re going to go, soon as he comes back here, we’re going to go down, downstairs. We’re not going to talk about anything we talked about in here. Just going to be for you to smoke, get your thoughts together, okay? then we’ll come back in here and talk some more, some questions.

[Investigator and Greenwell leave room- brief conversation with other person]

[Investigator and Greenwell return]

investigator: Shoot it to me, I want to hear it. You know, I’ve talked to some other people, I know it’s been bothering you. Everybody has said that you have been acting different. It’s really been bothering you. So it’s been noticeable to other people. Take that weight off, throw it on me. Get it off your shoulders, man.

Bryan Greenwell: I mean, ya’ll aren’t going to try to hit me with no fucking death penalty or nothing

Investigator: No, there’s no aggravated circumstances.

Bryan Greenwell: Well, try to get this done as quick as possible. Cause I’ll be honest with ya, I can’t sit in that jail.

Investigator: I understand.

Bryan Greenwell: Jodie didn’t have nothing to do with it. She did try to get help for her, I mean I even did try but … She comes over there and says he’s over there beatin’ on her. So we walked over there. We didn’t even walk in the apartment at first. I was like, you know, “what’s going on?” Jodie didn’t even go over there at first. She was like “you go over there and see what”. Said “yeah”. Dude was over there throwing shit, breaking shit, cussing her. All three of us were standing outside, even the girl was standing outside, you know what I’m saying, and I was like “look, just leave or come over here, something”, you know what I’m saying, “or I’m gonna call the cops”. She went back inside and he grabbed ahold of her or something like that. Jodie was like, you know, “you gotta help her”. Cause I guess her [inaudible] or something like that. So I walked in there and I separated them and this and that. That’s when, to be honest with you, I don’t even, I can’t even remember how the gun came into play, for real. Well, we started, kinda wrestling around and the gun went off. And then it went off again.

Investigator: How many times do you think it went off?

Bryan Greenwell: Honestly man, I don’t even know. I mean, I was… blacked out or something like that. I don’t know. Man, it’s like… I’m guessing two or three times, three. Something like that. I remember hearing three gunshots.

Investigator: Do you remember which one you shot first?

Bryan Greenwell: No, honestly. I don’t. [inaudible] I freaked out. And I was like “man, what the fuck. I came over here to help somebody this shit happens.” I think… I know it went off once. I think she got hit first, I’m not for sure. I mean [inaudible] was still struggling and it went off again. I do remember that. And that’s when he fell on the bed. And I didn’t, I mean, I didn’t know what to do. I mean, I went over there, like you said, there was no intentions of going over there [inaudible] malice intended or nothing like that, you know?

Investigator: You remember about what time, I know this happened Friday the 13th, is when we were there and it was later in the afternoon when we got there. When do you think this might have happened? Was it on that Friday? If I’m not mistaken she was supposed to start that new job on Friday at noon, does that sound right? Do you know that? Jodie knew that, that’s why

Bryan Greenwell: I don’t know.

Investigator: Okay.

Bryan Greenwell: I mean, after it was all done and everything I might have heard Jodie say something she was supposed to start a job today or something like that. It was like “what the fuck man, now what am I supposed to do?” You know, we were both like that, like “what do we do?” Neither one of us knew what to do. She was like “listen, call the cops” cause like you said we went over there with the intentions of helping not hurting somebody, you know? And she never, Jodie never, was near that apartment, what-so-ever, as far as I know of.

Investigator: She told me that she did. She didn’t go into the room that you guys were in which is the back bedroom. But she said she made it into part of it. You said she tried to help them afterwards, so

Bryan Greenwell: I mean, she was like

Investigator: I mean, it doesn’t matter to me. If she came in [inaudible] If she came in it’s fine. That doesn’t get you in trouble that makes you a normal human being that wants to come in and maybe try to help.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, I mean, we was both you know saying, she was like saying, well actually I was [inaudible] standing there then turned around and looked at her at the door and I was like “what do I do?” You know what I’m saying? I didn’t know. And I still, to this day, I still can’t tell you exactly, from start to finish, what happened, you know what I’m saying? I just know that I was the one standing in the room when both of them were laying there. Jordie was like “[inaudible] are they still breathing” whatever, you know what I’m saying. I was like “I don’t know?” I mean what, what, I mean, how do you check if somebody is [cross talk]

Investigator: Never been in that situation before.

Bryan Greenwell: And I do know that, I’m not for sure if the landlord called or if Jodie called the landlord or what, I’m not for sure, but I do remember hearing her say the landlord called or the landlord’s wife or something like that saying about you [inaudible] the cops [inaudible] dope from them or something. [inaudible] look like we went in there to rob them or something which wasn’t the case. Nothing was took, nothing like that. And I was like man, I didn’t know what to do. You know what I mean? I still don’t know what to do. I mean, I don’t know

Investigator: What happened with the gun? What did you do with the gun?

Bryan Greenwell: Destroyed it. Melted it down.

Investigator: Melted it down? How did you do that? That takes a lot of heat.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, I know. Well, actually the gun didn’t get melted down it got took apart and [inaudible] got melted down. And I was like, “man, I don’t know” and I gave the gun back to the person that owned it. You know what I’m saying? He just let me borrow it. And I can’t tell you his name because I don’t want to get him…

Investigator: So did you destroy it or did you give it back to the guy?

Bryan Greenwell: No, I took it apart Most of the gun went back.

Investigator: I mean, don’t bullshit me. I mean, it’s not, this is not a, that’s not a big issue there. My big thing honestly is, well, yeah I would like to recover it but I just want to make sure you didn’t just toss it somewhere and some kid got to it, that’s more what I’m worried about.

Bryan Greenwell: No No I made sure, yeah, I made sure there wasn’t no kid or no innocent bystander or nothing like that was gonna [inaudible] pick it up.

Investigator: What model was it? I know what caliber it was, at this point, wondering what model it was.

Bryan Greenwell: A Taurus, I think. Or… uh, yeah I think it was a Taurus. Pretty sure it was a Taurus.

Investigator: And you know, I know it was a 40, you know. I’m just curious.

Bryan Greenwell: I mean, to be honest with you I tried blocking it out but…

Investigator: You can’t block something like that out, man. And if you try to it’s eventually going to come back out and it’s going to eat and eat and eat. I mean, I can tell how upset you are

Bryan Greenwell: [inaudible cry] I never meant for none of this to happen. I mean, I don’t know what else to say besides that it was me.

Investigator: Is there anybody else there with you guys?

Bryan Greenwell: [shakes head “no”]

Investigator: Nobody else, okay. Did you have the gun on you when you first went over there? Was this a “I went back over there and got it” or did you have it on you when you first went over there?

Bryan Greenwell: Nah, I had it on me because the situation that fuckin’ everybody was saying that people was out looking for [inaudible] and this and that [inaudible] so I kept it on me. Just for her protection. I wasn’t going to …

Investigator: I understand. Did you, you said you didn’t take anything from the scene at all.

Bryan Greenwell: No.

Investigator: No. Did ya’ll leave anything by any chance? Lose anything?

Bryan Greenwell: I don’t, honestly I don’t know. I mean, I didn’t even try fuckin’ finding the shells that came out of the gun. I was just like, you know, I was dumbfounded, pretty much.

Investigator: And I know you didn’t, this happened in the back bedroom, where they fighting in the back bedroom and you got into the middle of it or did, you know, did you and him get into a fight in the back bedroom? I just want to be clear about it.

Bryan Greenwell: Well they was fighting. Worse than, we was all standing outside in the hallway..

Investigator: And we’re talking about physical fighting, not arguing

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah, we’re talking about physical fighting. And I was like, you know, that’s when Jodie said “you gotta help her”. That’s when I went in there and everything just happened so fast that … you know the rest. I mean, she did try to help them. I didn’t know what to do to help, I mean, I freaked out. I still freak out.

Investigator: Well, I tell you what. This whole thing, this whole situation, I mean it sucks, I mean I was right. Was I not right from the minute I went in here on the way things went down?

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: And I still believe bad shit happens to good people all the time but this series of events doesn’t paint you out to be a cold calculated “I don’t give a fuck” killer. I mean, shit happened, yeah. There’s nothing we can do about that now. But the way that we presented it as you coming over to help, and correct me if I’m wrong, would you see there’s a big difference between somebody who doesn’t give a fuck and coming over there and shooting people opposed to somebody who is there for a purpose and I can confirm that purpose because there was a domestic fight going on, and you go over there and shit goes bad.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah.

Investigator: There’s a big difference there.

Bryan Greenwell: Yeah. There’s a bid difference. I mean, I should have went with my gut and just stayed out of it. But I’m not that type of person. If I see somebody needs help, I try to help.

Investigator: I’m going to let you take this picture with you, too. I don’t know if you have any with your kids with you. Because I think, because I think the way we talked here tonight, that getting to see them is going to come a whole lot sooner than if would have been if you told me “I’m not talking to you, get out of the room”. I mean, I could have happened either way, and [inaudible] that’s why I really.. That’s what I was really worried about. That you wouldn’t understand how important of a chance I was trying to give you to get out. You were in a hole. And you’re still in a hole. It’s definitely not as deep as it was with your story out there. And it goes a long way with prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges and jurors. So we got to look at its a bump in your road. That bump was sitting back at your back side, you hadn’t crossed it yet.  Now we’re across it. Now we are going to figure out from here where to go and you’re going to get your life back on track. Does that sound like a good plan, here?

Bryan Greenwell: That’s not what I wanted.

Investigator: No? Nothing but future in front of you now. Don’t get me wrong. We’re going to take a little bit of it here, but it aint all of it. And what you do with the rest of it, is up to you.

Bryan Greenwell: I’ll never see daylight again.

Investigator: See people I’ve talked to heard you say that and I disagree with that. You have to remember where we are. We’re [inaudible] tend to be more lenient, more liberal here.

Bryan Greenwell: I hope so.

Investigator: And you’ve done yourself big time favors here. You’ve done the best you can for yourself with the situation you’re in. I’m going to go out here and talk to the corrections people and make sure they know about everything. Any questions you have for me right now? You have anything? Alright. Sit tight. We’ll be back here in a few minutes.

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Bryan Greenwell and Jodie Cecil Case Summary

Bryan Greenwell (also known as Brian Greenwell) and Jodie Cecil have been found guilty of killing a woman and leaving a man severely injured in Shelby Park neighborhood in Louisville, Kentucky. Both defendants were charged with murder, criminal attempted murder, first degree assault, and tampering with physical evidence. Bryan Greenwell and Jodie Cecil were neighbors of Jennifer Cain and Derrell Wilson.

Jennifer

On May 13, 2016, Jennifer Cain was shot several times and died from her injuries. Derrell Wilson survived the attack with life threatening injuries and played a crucial role in the confession of the defendants. While still hospitalized and in poor condition, Derrell Wilson indicated that Bryan Greenwell and Jodie Cecil were involved in the attack. A recording of the interaction between Derrell Wilson and police was recorded and shown to the defendants during interrogation.

After being confronted with the recording of the accusation by the victim, the couple claimed that their neighbors were having a domestic dispute and they went over to assist.  Instead of deescalating the situation as they supposedly planned, Bryan Greenwell ended up shooting the couple. Cecil said that a fight broke out over the gun, and Greenwell said he “blacked out” and doesn’t know what happened.

Greenwell

The trial began on May 21, 2018 and ended on May 25, 2018 with both defendants being found guilty of all charges. Greenwell was a habitual felony offender causing the jury to recommend life in prison. A recommendation of 20 years in prison was made for Cecil. She received 10 additional years for trafficking methamphetamines; a charge Greenwell was already in jail for when he was questioned by police.

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Despite being shot in the head, Derrell Wilson is making an astonishing recovery. Initially, Derrell Wilson was unresponsive. Against the odds, months later Derrell Wilson is regaining his motor functions.

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George Huguely Case Summary

George Huguely

George Huguely was a University of Virginia student, along with his on – again, off – again girlfriend, Yeardley Love. They both played lacrosse for the school. The couple had a rough relationship where there was intense arguments, domestic violence, and excessive alcohol consumption. A week before the murder, Yeardley Love allegedly sent messages to Huguely expressing that she had intimate relations with another man while away from town. A few days later the two bumped into one other at a bar and Love allegedly later came to Huguely’s apartment angry. She had to be removed by one of Huguely’s roommate’s girlfriends because she was being aggressive. After this point, Love refused any contact with Huguely. This no-contact arrangement was not mutual, and Huguely repeatedly tried to email Love to arrange a time to talk about what had happened. After a day’s worth of drinking on May 2, 2010, Huguely decided to go to Love’s house after leaving a bar.

Love

It is believed that sometime shortly after midnight, Huguely went in through the unlocked front door of Love’s apartment. After finding that Love would not let him into her bedroom, he kicked a hole through the door and reached his arm in to unlock her door. Huguely continued to argue with her about the previous incidents that upset him, while Love tried to get him to leave by screaming to get out and to leave her alone. In the police interrogation, Huguely stated that he shook her as she leaned into the corner, and wrestled with her, trying to pacify her. He claims the last he saw her she was standing with him looking at him, though she had not screamed or said anything after being shaken, and then he tossed her onto the bed and left, saying “go to bed”.

When Love’s roommate came home at 2:15 a.m., she discovered Love’s body and called police. Huguely waived his Miranda rights when brought into the police station and detailed the assault. Half way through the interrogation he is informed that Love died, where he breaks down saying “please tell me she’s not dead… she can’t be dead… there’s no way… I didn’t do anything that could have done that to her.”

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George Huguely Police Interrogation

The following investigation of George Huguely is in relation to the murder of his on-again off-again girlfriend, Yeardley Love. In an emotional state fueled by alcohol, George Huguely went to Love’s apartment, kicked a hole through her bedroom door, and assaulted her. The assault resulted in Love’s death. A case summary can be found here. 

George Huguely Police Interrogation

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Investigator 1: [Inaudible} Just so you know, um, I don’t have any arrest warrants for you. Okay?

George Huguely: Okay.

Investigator 1: However, I am investigating a case and you are being detained. Which means [inaubible] you to leave.

George Huguely: Okay.

Investigator 1: So, I want to talk to you about this to find out [inaudible: door slams] you know what I’m saying? So, before I want to talk to you, I have to make sure you do understand your rights. Okay, now that I’ve explained to you what is going on with that and stuff. You understand that?

George Huguely: Yes.

Investigator 1: Okay. Today’s date is May 3rd. The current time is 7:52.

Investigator 2: [inaudible]

Investigator 1: What’s that?

Investigator 2: [inaudible]

Investigator 1: So your first name is George? G-E-

George Huguely: O-R-G-E

Investigator 1: And your middle name?

George Huguely: Is Wesley.

Investigator 1: How do you spell that?

George Huguely: W-E-S-L-E-Y

Investigator 1: And spell your last name

George Huguely: H-U-G-U-E-L-Y

Investigator 1: [inaudible] He is also a detective with [inaudible].

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: This is just something I have to ask you. Can you read and write?

George Huguely: Yes.

Investigator 1: Have any threats or promises been made to you by police or the attorney’s office?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Before we ask you any questions you must understand your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before questioning or have one present during questioning. If you can not afford a lawyer one will be provided for you. And if you are willing to talk to us now you have the right to stop at any time. Got it?

George Huguely: Yup.

Investigator 1: Awesome. Need your signature there, that you understand your rights and are willing to talk to us. And the time now is 7:53. [inaudible] First I want to do a background on you if that’s okay? [inaudible] How long have you been a student?

George Huguely: It’s my fourth year.

Investigator 1: Fourth year? Oh, okay. Long time then, huh? How long have you lived where you live right now?

George Huguely: Two years

Investigator 1: Two years? Okay. And you play lacrosse?

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: How long have you been playing that?

George Huguely: Since I was very young. At school for four years.

Investigator 1: Alright. Um, do you work anywhere?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: No? Where do you get your support from? Family? Um, Let’s kind of start, I want to kind of ask you some questions and I’ll explain some things a little later, um, tell me about your day yesterday.

George Huguely: Played golf with my [inaudible]

Investigator 1: Where was that at?

George Huguely: Um, wintergreen.

Investigator 1: Wintergreen? Okay.

George Huguely: And I went to dinner with my dad with two buddies.

Investigator 1: Where was that?

George Huguely: We went to CNL. [inaudible] Um, went out to the bar for a little bit.

Investigator 1: What time did you go out to eat?

George Huguely: [inaudible] I would say we left like 5ish, so I would say at 7:30 somewhere.

Investigator 1: Okay.

George Huguely: Then went home. Drank a few beers. Went to the bar for a little while.

Investigator 1: Which one?

George Huguely: [inaudible] heights.

Investigator 1: Oh, Okay.

George Huguely: Then I went over to talk to Yeardley and…

Investigator 1: Who’s Yeardley?

George Huguely: Yeardley is my former girlfriend. [inaudible: this is about which I understand?] But I went over to talk to Yeardley. I was like “YEARDLEY” and she was like already totally freaked out because of what she did this past, like a few days ago, and we haven’t talked since and I was just going to like talk to her. And she was already like “ah”; freaking out. Like, you know [inaudible] and I was like “I’m just trying to talk to you”. And like she like started to be like, really like, defensive against it. Because the week before she came into my apartment and like attacked, like started striking me and I was like “you gotta leave” and like, my roommates girlfriend had to be like, take her out of there because of this. So like, when I went in to talk to, [inaudible] talk to her, she was already on the defensive edge. I was like “I’m not here to like, I’m just here to talk to you” and she got all like, sat up. Like against the wall,  like if it was in this corner she was up against the wall and I was like, we were sitting there talking and she started getting like, all like aggressive like after this so I was like “chill out” and shook her a little bit and she started being like, freaking out. And I was like “Listen, I’m not here to do anything, I’m here to talk to you about everything that ensued in the last week.” And She was like, started being like “no no no ” hitting her head [pretends to hit head on wall] like “stop it” [inaudible] I was like “Yeardley what the hell, like, we were just going to talk”. It was not at all a good conversation because like, she was already like, freaking out just seeing me, just even seeing me there.

Investigator 1: Okay, what happened next?

George Huguely: Next she just kept hitting her head on the wall where she was sitting on the bed and I was like [demonstrates grabbing arms] grabbed her and was like “stop” and I looked at her and was like “we need to like talk about this”. Like I held her arms and stuff but like I never struck her, never like hit her [demonstrates hitting someone] hit her in the face or anything. I was just like “we need to talk” and she was like so, like what’s the word? [demonstrates violently shaking with his arms and dodging motions] fish out of the water like. So like, all this. All because of what happened last week and I was like “Listen like, I’m not here to like fight with you or do anything, I’m here to talk to you.” And like “noooo get away from me”. Like that’s what happened. I left and she was in her bed, I think her nose was bleeding a little bit but she was, when I left she was still in her bed. Actually, she may, at one point she was on the floor and we were talkin, we were, and she was like still fighting. Actually no, she was running to her desk where her desk is and she was like “you have to leave, you have to leave, you have to leave, you have to leave” like all this stuff. I was like “alright, but I want to talk to you after all of this.” I was a little persistent because of the situation. Like, my former girlfriend who, what happened last week, you know, alright like talk and everything. Somehow we ended up, somehow I was wrestling her on the floor and I was like “stop” and I was holding her but I never struck her or anything. And I think that might have been when her nose started to bleed, actually. When I was holding her on the floor being like “Listen like [inaudible: attacked?], I wanted to talk to her about everything because I got like, whatever, text messages from her and all this stuff. That’s when I was like holding her, not like forcefully. That’s when her nose started to bleed [inaudible: face on the ground?] and then the conversation was going no where and nothing was happening left and went back home.

Investigator 1: Lets kinda start from, you keep talking about something that happened last week. What happened last week?

George Huguely: What happened last week?

Investigator 1: Does it kind set up the…

George Huguely: Well, yeah. That’s why I was going over there to talk to her.

Investigator 1: What happened last week? Let’s start there.

George Huguely: Last week? Well, a lot of things happened. Basically she came over to my appointment at, on,

Investigator 1: Let me stop you, real quick. How long have ya’ll been dating?

George Huguely: Two years.

Investigator 1: Two years? Okay.

George Huguely: Yeah, two and a half years.

Investigator 1: Okay, alright. Now start from the last week.

George Huguely: We broke up like a month ago but we have been talking and hanging out and stuff.

Investigator 1: [inaudible] break up?

George Huguely: We broke up because she wanted to. ‘Cause she wasn’t real sure about all of this because we’re both like graduating and she wants to move to New York and I want to move to like San Francisco. So she was like “we don’t really know” and she was like, unsure about all of this so we broke, so she was like, sorta broke it off like slightly over a period of time. Like “we shouldn’t hang out anymore” but we were still hanging out and everything. And then, come a week ago she went down to Carolina. I don’t really know what happened, she told me what happened, which was she sent me some text messages like “oh I’m so glad I like, I [studders] fucked so and so.” So I didn’t respond to that. I was like “whatever”.

Investigator 1: She said she “fucked” somebody? Is that what you just said?

George Huguely: Hooked up, fucked, same thing. So I didn’t respond to that. Those were like text messages. So I was like [inaudible: Brian?] look at this, this is fucked up but didn’t respond. So I went to the bar. Saw her at the bar, actually, and she’s all like fucked up. So I was talking to a buddy and uh, and she like comes over. My buddy like, didn’t even bother like. And then I get home like on my sofa and she comes in the door, like this. With the same buddies I was with earlier and two girls that were visiting deciding if they wanted to come here to school or not. And she comes over and started hitting me in the face and I was like “ah stop, get off of me, leave me alone, like you can’t be doing this” and my roommate’s girlfriend, I was calling her from the kitchen like “get her out of here” like never touched her or struck her. Like “Listen, you have to like stop hitting me” and she wouldn’t stop. She kept coming. So that happened. So I was going over there to talk to her, last night, on Saturday. That’s the reason I was going over there to talk to her. I never like hit her, or struck her, like nothing.

Investigator 1: Okay, so you go over there. Knock on the door?

George Huguely: Her front door was open. Her room door was closed and I knocked like this [knocks on wall] “Yeardley”. Like she heard me [inaudible] and went.

Investigator 1: Went where?

George Huguely: To her room.

Investigator 1: Straight to her bedroom?

George Huguely: Well, yeah, I mean.

Investigator 1: How did you get through the door?

George Huguely: Her door? Front door?

Investigator 1: Her door.

George Huguely: Actually, it might have been locked.

Investigator 1: Mhm. It was.

George Huguely: Yeah. Actually.

Investigator 1: Just be honest.

George Huguely: Yeah, actually it was locked because I think I put a hole. Pretty sure it was locked now that you said that.

Investigator 1: Why would you do that?

George Huguely: Because I wanted to talk to her. She’s been sending me like emails.

Investigator 1: Was she telling you to leave?

George Huguely: Well I guess, once I was in her room. She was like, very, like [inaudible: I don’t want to talk to you?]

Investigator 1: What was she wearing?

George Huguely: She was, what was she wearing? She was in her bed. A tee-shirt?

[cross talk]

Investigator 1: Okay. So she was in her bed in a tee-shirt. Light on, light off?

George Huguely: Light off. I’m pretty sure this was around 12:45 ish. So she like, probably, either asleep or doing something. So I went in there to talk to her and she was very on edge. “I don’t want to talk, I don’t want to talk”. And I was like “what you told last week was outrageous, I just want to talk to you.”

Investigator 2: [inaudible]

George Huguely: Because I want to talk to her.

Investigator 1: Continue on. It’s fine. Continue on. So you want to talk to her and she doesn’t want to talk to you.

George Huguely: Not really. I mean, we talked though. There were parts where we were talking.

Investigator 1: Do you know what you were talking about?

George Huguely: I mean, about so many different things.

Investigator 1: Like what?

George Huguely: Like what she did last week. How she attacked me. You know. Like she went to Carolina Sunday, came over and attacked me on Tuesday. I was over there to talk, like this is outrageous. I mean, and, because I was trying to be better. Then like, you know. Then all of this happens. It’s to the point where my roommates has to take her out of there.

Investigator 1: Okay. Lets go back to you’re in her room tonight.

George Huguely: Last night. Yeah. And so she’s like in the corner. If her bed was pushed all the way back in the corner. And she, I’m pretty sure she was very defensive because she knew how sad I was because I’ve told her through emails how sad I was about what she did and about Tuesday night and coming in and striking me. And so I was like “Listen like, I want to talk to you, what you did was bullshit. That’s not like, okay.

Investigator 1: So you were pretty upset, pretty angry.

George Huguely: Um, yeah, I mean, I was more emotional than angry. [inaudible] She was like sorta pushing everything she did to the back burner and talking about, like try to put everything she did… wasn’t important. And we talked. She kept saying things like “well, I don’t trust you” stuff like that. It kept going to the point where I was like “Yeardley, we have to figure out what’s going on”, and she was like “I don’t want to talk about it” and she like pushed me like “get out of here” like “go” and I was like “no” like “we have to talk”.

Investigator 1: Where are you holding on her?

George Huguely: On her arms.

Investigator 1: Up here?

George Huguely: Like shoulders. Yeah like, Yeah. Never struck her, if I could like show you like.

Investigator 1: No, I’m sorry. [inaudible cross talk]

George Huguely: [inaudible] She was like wiggling and like hide in the corner, defensively almost. And then like wrestled on the ground the same way. Her nose started bleeding. Then she ended up back in bed. Then I left. I was like [inaudible]

Investigator 1:  How did she get back in bed?

George Huguely: Ummm… We were like wrestling and we stood up and I tossed her like pushed her onto the bed like “go to bed, I’ll talk to you later”. I didn’t like throw her. We were like standing at this point after we wrestled on the ground. She had like a bloody nose. Like “go to bed”.

Investigator 1: So you kinda like tossed her on the bed and left.

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: Did you go back to check on her at any point?

George Huguely: No I did not.

Investigator 1: Did you touch her neck area at all? Choke her at one point?

George Huguely: Uh… I may have grabbed her a little bit by the neck but I never like, strangled her. Yeah I mean, during the whole commotion. I may have grabbed her neck but I was never like, strangling her.

Investigator 1: Alright, I have to check on something real quick, then I will be right back.

George Huguely: Mind if I use the restroom?

Investigator 1: Um, actually if I can have one second.

George Huguely: I’m sorry [inaudible] I had to take that call. I apologize [inaudible]. You said you got there at 12:45? Around that area.

Investigator 1: Why do you think it was that time?

George Huguely: Because I went to dinner 7:30 I think. Went to the bar for a little bit. That’s just my..

Investigator 1: Estimate. Did you call her to let her know you were coming or text her?

George Huguely: No because she says she lost her phone the night she came in my apartment. She says it’s in my apartment but it’s not. So she doesn’t have a phone so I did not call her or text her.

Investigator 1: How long do you think you were at her apartment when you were there?

George Huguely: Like between, around like 8 minutes. I mean like, 8-10 minutes.

Investigator 1: Was anybody else there? Just the two of you?

George Huguely: No. Her roommates weren’t there actually.

Investigator 1: Um, okay. When you left her apartment did you take anything with you?

George Huguely: No. She was in her bed.

Investigator 1: Alright. [inaudible] her laptop is missing I guess. Did you grab it when you were leaving?

George Huguely: Yeah I did actually.

Investigator 1: Is it at your apartment?

George Huguely: Somewhere at my apartment. I can give it to her.

Investigator 1: Why did you take her laptop?

George Huguely: Because I was so pissed that she wouldn’t talk to me. I took it almost as collateral I guess. It’s not reasonable logic. But, I don’t know.

Investigator 1: Did you take anything else besides her laptop?

George Huguely: No no.

Investigator 1: Alright. So when you left out of there you saw she was bleeding out her nose. Did you try to call rescue or anything to make sure she was alright?

George Huguely: No, I did not.

Investigator 1: Why?

George Huguely: Uh… I didn’t think it was like, I didn’t think she was like in need of going to the emergency room. She had like, a bloody

Investigator 1: Why did you think that?

George Huguely: I don’t know.

Investigator 1: [inaudible] and correct me if I’m wrong, when you were shaking her and her head was hitting the wall..

George Huguely: Well that was the beginning. Initially, like, she was up in the corner like [demonstrates], “get out of here” this.

Investigator 1: At anytime when you were shaking her, did her head bang the wall? You already said you didn’t hit her.

George Huguely: I mean I wasn’t like throwing her into the wall. We were sitting on the bed against the wall and I was like “Yeardley” like. I mean maybe? We were against the wall and she’s like sitting there in the corner. Like if we were like this and I was like “Yeardley” like “what the fuck was that about, like that was bullshit that you would do that.” Like possibly. I was like… such a bullshit move. [audible]

Investigator 1: She has a pretty good knot on her head. That’s why I’m asking. How you could explain how that would have happened.

George Huguely: I mean, I don’t even know. A knot?

Investigator 1: On the sided of her head, she’s been hit pretty good right there. So I’m just trying to figure out did you hit her with something?

George Huguely: No. I never. Never touched her or struck her or anything.

Investigator 1: Well you touched her. You had your hands on her.

George Huguely: I said I never struck her. Never never at all like [demonstrates]

Investigator 1: I’m trying to figure out why she has a black eye and why she’s got a big lump right there.

George Huguely: I mean, we… were… I mean. [crosstalk]

Investigator 1: So you don’t know how it happened.

George Huguely: So she’s got a black…

Investigator 1: It’s fine It’s fine. Um, So you. I’m going through this one more time and make sure we’re on the same page. You’re pretty pissed at her from a week ago for sending those text messages. Do you have those text messages where she said, as you said, “fucked” somebody?

George Huguely: I actually might have those, yeah.

Investigator 1: Alright, you got your phone with you? Let’s pull that out so we can see those.

George Huguely: They were like, guess what you would call, one of these, which is, like an ongoing conversation with instant message. [inaudible cross talk]

Investigator 1: [inaudible cross talk] [moves his phone to the middle of table]

George Huguely: I’m sure there’s emails that said she hooked up with somebody. I’m not lying about that.

Investigator 1: Do you own a home computer or laptop?

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: Is that where all the emails are? Can you get to them on that? [gestures to phone]

George Huguely: Actually they’re deleted off here. I can get to them though.

Investigator 1: That’s fine. Um, so last week. You kinda broke up a while ago but are still talking. Last week you get pissed because she sends you that text so last night you went over there because you wanted to talk. So lets talk about how you..

George Huguely: Entered?

Investigator 1: Entered, yeah.

George Huguely: Yeah, I mean.

Investigator 1: Cause to put your fist through the door.

[cross talk]

George Huguely: Leg I’m pretty sure. [inaudible: he shows investigator his leg] kicked it

Investigator 1: You’re right it is your leg. How’d you get the bruises on your hand then?

George Huguely: This is all from lacrosse. This is all…

Investigator 1: That seems pretty fresh right there [gestures to his arm/hand]

George Huguely: This is all from lacrosse game on Saturday. You can see where my arm pads are. Right here, my gloves right here.

Investigator 1: Right there? I thought you wore those padded gloves?

George Huguely: [showing bruises on arms] This is all defense, this is all from lacrosse, one hundred percent. This is where my arm pads are, and my gloves end here. This is all tanned because that’s where gets sun, compared to like my legs [shows leg] the difference in color and that’s, I got whacked. I remember one hundred percent. Got whacked when I was trying to [inaudible: kill the clock?]

Investigator 1: When you had her and shaking her did she scratch you in anyway?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: No? She’s a little girl, she’s tiny.

George Huguely: No. She didn’t scratch me.

Investigator 1: Hit you or anything like that?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Okay, so you kick in the door.

George Huguely: [inaudible] that’s how I got in, yeah, yeah, and I stuck my arm through and unlocked it. And then in there. [inaudible]

Investigator 1: What was she saying while you were kicking the door? Did you just go straight kick or did you knock first?

George Huguely: No, I knocked first. I was like “Yeardley, let me in”. And I think she said something like, that was like, I remember, that was like, I just don’t remember exactly what, I remember her saying something or whispering some shit or like, I don’t know. And I was like, Alright well. She knew, because I sent her emails. Like six emails that were like “we need to talk, I’m coming over to talk to you” and like, and she actually did respond to those. Actually [inaudible] she was like “fuck you, I’m not talking to you” like something along those lines.

Investigator 1: Alright. How much have you had to drink tonight? Or last night?

George Huguely: Um, I had probably four or five beers on the golf course [cross talk] that was earlier in the day. And I had two glasses of wine at dinner, and like three more beers afterwards. And like, four, three, afterwards I probably, after dinner I probably had like five beers combined.

Investigator 1: Okay, um, Did you smoke any weed? Any other drugs?

George Huguely: No No.

Investigator 1: What were you wearing last night?

George Huguely: I was wearing shorts and a tee shirt.

Investigator 1: That?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: What did the shorts and tee shirt look like?

George Huguely: They are on the floor in my room. They are cargo shorts and a tee shirt.

Investigator 1: Okay. What color are the cargo shorts?

George Huguely: Blue.

Investigator 1: And the tee shirt?

George Huguely: I think white. Yeah, uh, a white tee shirt.

Investigator 1: Alright. We been through what all happened. When did you leave? Right after you went out the front door?

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: Where did you go?

George Huguely: Home.

Investigator 1: Straight home?

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: Talk to anybody?

George Huguely: No

Investigator 1: Call anybody?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Call, you said she doesn’t have a phone.

George Huguely: No, she does not have a phone.

Investigator 1: Her phone at your house?

George Huguely: I believe, everybody looked for her phone, my roommate’s girlfriend looked for her phone, we have not, it’s not at our apartment.

Investigator 1: Okay. But you picked up her computer on the way out of her apartment.

George Huguely: Yeah.

Investigator 1: Anything else?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Where are we going to find that computer at?

George Huguely: The computer is at… the dumpster maybe.

Investigator 1: So you threw her computer in the dumpster?

George Huguely: The one right by 14th street. Wait no no, not the one by 14th street. It is the one right by the point.

Investigator 1: By the point?

George Huguely: Theres an apartment complex[inaudible: investigator 2 exiting door] On the way home I just tossed it in there. [inaudible] that’s where the computer is.

Investigator 1: Did you toss anything else in there?

George Huguely: No no no.

Investigator 1: So what did you do when you got home?

George Huguely: I just went to bed.

Investigator 1: Anybody else home?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Then you just went to bed? [cross talk] Didn’t take a shower or anything like that?

George Huguely: Nah.

Investigator 1: Did you happen to look at the clock before you laid down?

George Huguely:  Nah, I did not. I mean I’m sorry. [inaudible]

Investigator 1: Right, right. Okay. [inaudible] take you to the bathroom right quick. You want to take him to the bathroom?

Investigator 2: Not yet.

Investigator 1: Not yet.

[investigators talking inaudible] [investigators leave room]

Investigator 1: Okay, yeah, Okay yeah. He’s got some questions for ya.

Investigator 2: [inaudible] I know we touched about what happened last night but sum it up for me. Lead up to it for me, how did you guys break up exactly?

George Huguely: Well we are, not, [inaudible] and I’m going, well she wants to move to New York and I’m not exactly sure what I’m doing yet but [inaudible] San Francisco. And um so we’ve been like talking about this. Found a text message in my phone from another girl and we broke up because of that. So like, an ongoing type deal.

Investigator 2: [inaudible] that you mention putting your hands around her neck and holding her back that way. Is that another reason you broke up? Arguments, any past physical violence?

George Huguely: Um, that happened

Investigator 2: Keep in mind, before we talked to you we’ve talked to other people.

George Huguely: No, I understand that. I mean, that night that she found the text messages in my phone, I was more drunk than I probably have ever been. And she did the same thing like yelling at me and hitting me and I’m drunk. And I actually laid on her, like detained on her kind of, and she ended up leaving but that happened that night.

Investigator 2: How did you detain her?

George Huguely: I mean, sir, like that night I was

Investigator 2: Did you get off of her yourself or did other people have to get you off of her?

George Huguely: Uh, I, I really don’t remember that night…at all.

Investigator 2: [inaudible] choked her a little bit?

George Huguely: Nah, I don’t think I choked her. She never said I choked her. She said I laid on her and held her.

Investigator 2: How did you lay down on her?

George Huguely: She said I literally like laid on her.

Investigator 2: Was she face down or face up?

George Huguely: I don’t even know. Like, we’ve hung out since that night. A bunch of times. Like actually, probably a dozen times since that night and we haven’t really talked about that. But since that night, like she’s never said that like I was choking her or anything. She said I literally like laid on her and like

Investigator 2: Shes about what? 105-110 lbs soaking wet? You’re almost double her size.

George Huguely: Yeah. Probably.

Investigator 2: What? you don’t think would maybe be enough to take the breathe out of her if you’re laying down on top of her?

George Huguely: I mean, I never thought about it like that. I never like hurt, never like hurt her.

Investigator 2: We never mentioned anything about [inaudible] her in the face and you constantly [inaudible] didn’t punch her in the face. We haven’t even asked you that question. [crosstalk] smack her like “snap out of it?”.

George Huguely: No no. I did not. I never. I’m in here for assault charges that’s why I assumed

Investigator 2: No, I never told you you had any warrants on you. I said you were detained.

George Huguely: I know but someone said “you’re here for an assault investigation”.

Investigator 2: Have you ever threatened any harm to her?

George Huguely: No, no.

Investigator 2: Why’d you take her computer?

George Huguely: I don’t know

Investigator 2: Maybe because there’s evidence on the computer of emails you sent?

George Huguely: No. You can find, you can read all of the emails back and forth. Like.

Investigator 2: Theres not threats or anything on the computer [inaudible] forensically. [inaudible] “Hey I found out you’re cheating on me”, nothing like that?

George Huguely: No, No, nothing, nothing.

Investigator 2: Why’d you take that computer then?

George Huguely: I, you could look at my computer and see emails that are on my computer that are on her computer. Emails are [inaudible] It’s not like her email account is erased because I took her computer. I have no idea why I took the computer. Probably because she was like not talking to me, and not like, she’s did like all this stuff and I just walked out of there with her computer.

Investigator 2: Why would this little girl just for no reason start attacking you out of the blue?

George Huguely: You could ask my friends I was with that night

Investigator 2: [inaudible crosstalk] yeah that night.

George Huguely: Um, you can, I wish, I have four, three eye witnesses for that one. She walked in and started punching me in the face, hitting me with her purse, hitting me with her cellphone. And literally when I stood up and backed away it was like, to the other, “you got to stop, get away from me, get away from me” she came, she kept coming back for more.

Investigator 2: [inaudible]

George Huguely: No, sir. I’m not lying. Like, you can look through all the emails.

[crosstalk]

Investigator 2: So [inaudible: why the heck?] would you break that door down?

George Huguely: Because I wanted to, I said it

Investigator 2: It’s more than that man, that’s rage, the way that door is kicked in. That was pure rage. You must have been seriously mad.

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: You’ve told us everything else

[cross talk]

George Huguely: I’ve told you guys everything, I’m not hiding anything. I’ve told you everything.

Investigator 2: Then why kick the door in? That’s just pure rage.

George Huguely: I wanted to talk to her, I wanted to talk to her, I wanted to talk to her.

Investigator 1: Have you always been that way with her? As far as if she didn’t want to do something it was kind of your way or the highway type of thing?

George Huguely: No, no.

Investigator 2: [inaudible] I understand you had a lot of alcohol in you last night, okay? Do you think that maybe could have lead you to, why you, fed your emotions to kick in that door?

George Huguely: That that may have have have made me rationalize kicking in the door to open it up. But it was all strictly to go in there and talk to her. I wanted to talk to her. I told her, I sent emails, you can see the emails, you can see everything. Said “we need to talk about this”, I sent like three emails like “I want to come talk to you” then like “fuck yourself”. I should not have gone over there when like, when I was drinking. But like that, that made me emotional so I wanted to go talk to her. That’s why I kicked to the door. That’s why I wanted to talk to her.

Investigator 2: I know you mentioned you fell on her a week ago, right? When you were laying on her.

George Huguely: That was, that was

Investigator 2: a month ago

George Huguely: a month ago

Investigator 2: When you detained her, right? Did you detain [inaudible] at all?

George Huguely: No

Investigator 2: Did you fall down on top of her wrestling?

George Huguely: We were wrestling on the ground for a little bit.

Investigator 2: Did you wrestle on the bed at all?

George Huguely: Nah, nah, never like, nah, never like. Maybe I shook her?

Investigator 2: No I mean like hold her down until she calmed down a bit?

George Huguely: No, if anything [crosstalk]

Investigator 2: I’m sure you didn’t want to hurt her. That way if you were restraining her [inaudible] she wouldn’t be able to hurt herself as much.

George Huguely: I never laid on her or any of that. Like, when we were on the floor, when her nose started bleeding, like wrestled around, that’s when her nose started bleeding.

Investigator 2: Was it pretty noisy when you guys were wrestling around?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1:  Was she screaming?

George Huguely: No. No. No. She was, no. She was not screaming, actually.

Investigator 2: If I’m cracking my head in the wall, I’m going to be saying ow.

George Huguely: Yeah. No, she was not screaming. She should have been. Probably, I mean maybe, I don’t know.

Investigator 1: Why do you think she should have been?

George Huguely: I don’t know. I mean, well, she was screaming when I first ,like, came in the room. She was like “no, I’m not talking to you. Get the fuck out of here” and all that. But like, that was it.

Investigator 1: When um, at any point before you said you, and this was your words, you tossed her on the bed and then you left.

George Huguely: Yeah

Investigator 1: At any point before that, did she lose consciousness?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: Okay. What happened after you tossed her on the bed? Did she move? Talk about, say something?

George Huguely: I mean, I literally tossed her on the bed and turned around…

Investigator 1: Tossed her on the bed or tossed her on the floor?

George Huguely: On the bed and walked out the door.

Investigator 1: Did she have on, did she still have her tee-shirt on at that point?

George Huguely: Uh, yeah. Uh. She, yeah, I mean she never, she only had her tee shirt on the entire time. She never had, she never was not, unclothed.

Investigator 1: So you didn’t sexually assault her or anything?

George Huguely: No, no no no, no!

Investigator 1:  Okay. I have to ask.

George Huguely: I’m sorry I’m sorry [inaudible] I apologize.

Investigator 1: When you tossed her on her bed was she on her back or her stomach?

George Huguely: I mean, I think she was on her back I’m not sure. I mean I was like, you know

Investigator 1: I asked you earlier about the light. ‘Cause if shes kinda in bed maybe the lights were off. Where the lights on? Did you turn them on?

George Huguely: The lights were..

Investigator 1: For you to be able to see?

George Huguely: The lights were not on.

Investigator 1: How did you see the blood and stuff coming out her nose?

George Huguely: Because she has a big bay window by her room and there’s lights from the parking lot. And I mean, it’s not hard, it’s easy to see.

Investigator 1: Okay, so when you toss her back on the bed she’s bleeding. You said she was bleeding out her nose and you didn’t feel you needed to call rescue?

George Huguely: No.

Investigator 1: After banging her head, and shaking her and blood coming out of her nose on the floor?

George Huguely: No, I mean…

Investigator 1: Let me ask you this, did you um, and you’ve been honest so far so there’s really no reason for you not to, to lie about anything, when you left out of there were you kinda like “you got what you deserved” and that’s why you didn’t call 911?

George Huguely: No, no no no no. It wasn’t about that for me. It was about going to talk to her. It was nothing about…

Investigator 1: You miss anything you want to ask him about right now?

George Huguely: There’s nothing about going to get anything, or going, you know. I don’t know. I took the computer and that was irrational but that was like my collateral if you could look at it like that, that’s where my logic was at.

Investigator 1: Well I have to tell you something.

Investigator 2: I think I know why you took that computer.

George Huguely: Cause why, do you think?

Investigator 1: [Inaudible to investigator 2] She’s dead. You killed her George. You killed her.

George Huguely: She’s dead?

Investigator 1: I think you knew that already.

George Huguely: No, I did not. She’s dead? How the fuck is she dead?

Investigator 1: Because you killed her.

George Huguely: How the fuck is she dead?

Investigator 1: ‘Cause you killed her George.

George Huguely: Oh my god.

Investigator 2: We’re not here for any reason, George.

George Huguely: [Head down pulling hair] She’s dead?

Investigator 1: Yes.

George Huguely: She’s dead?

Investigator 1: Yes.

George Huguely: She’s dead?

Investigator 1: She’s dead.

George Huguely: How? How?

Investigator 1: I already told you how and you already told us how as well.

George Huguely: How is she dead?

Investigator 1: You just told us.

George Huguely: How is she dead? How is she dead? I didn’t strangle her, I didn’t do any, I didn’t fucking  hit her. [whispers “how the fuck is she dead”] I don’t even know. I don’t. She’s dead?

Investigator 2: Yes.

George Huguely: How the fuck is she dead? Oh my god.

Investigator 2: We’re serious George. That’s why you took the computer, isn’t it?

George Huguely: No!

Investigator 2: Because you had threats to kill her on that from a past email because she hooked up with a player from UNC.

George Huguely: I never, I said that, I never, that was just like the heat of the moment, it was heat of the moment.

Investigator 2: Last night was heat of the moment too, wasn’t it? You went in there to talk with her and it got out of control. Right George? The alcohol got ahold of you? You kicked in her door, she started to fight with you, you punched her in the head or you cracked her head in the window or in the wall.

George Huguely: She’s not dead, She’s not dead.

Investigator 2: She is, I aint B.S.ing you. Right now it’s serious.

George Huguely: I want to see, I want to see her. She’s not dead.

Investigator 1: George, She. Is. Dead.

Investigator 2: You’re not here to dance with us. You’re here because she’s dead. The alcohol has…

George Huguely: I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it. I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t hurt her.

Investigator 2: Listen to me, listen to me, listen to me. You probably didn’t mean to hurt her.

George Huguely: I didn’t hurt her.

Investigator 2: You went in there, you kicked the door, she got a little feisty, you either punched her or smacked her head into the concrete and then you held her down under a pillow because that’s…

George Huguely: I didn’t hold her under a pillow I was never on the bed.

Investigator 2: Okay then.

George Huguely: I never held her down, I never,  I never suffocated her, I never did anything. I don’t believe that she’s dead. [cross talk] I don’t believe that she’s dead. I don’t believe that she’s dead.

Investigator 2: Did you punch her did you…

George Huguely: How, there’s no way that she’s dead. She’s not dead. I never did anything [inaudible] that she could be dead.

Investigator 2: Listen to me listen to me, listen to me. Did you punch her or..

George Huguely: No. I never, I never, No.

Investigator 2: Did you hold her head into the wall? Did you crack it?

George Huguely: No. Is her head cracked?!

Investigator 2: Did you smack her head into the wall?

George Huguely: No, she’s not dead, she’s not dead. You guys said she had a black eye and a bump on her head.

Investigator 1: She has those things.

George Huguely: But she’s, she’s, she’s not dead. I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t, I did not.

Investigator 1: Let’s calm down.

George Huguely: I did not like hurt her. Like, She’s not dead.

Investigator 1: Calm down there, George, okay?

George Huguely: Tell me she’s not dead. Tell me she’s not dead. Tell me she’s not dead.

Investigator 1: I want you to calm down right now, okay?

George Huguely: I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it. I never did anything that could do that to her.

Investigator 1: Let’s calm down, okay

George Huguely: I never did anything that could do this to her I swear to God. Never did anything that could do that to her. I never, no. I refuse to believe that she’s dead. There’s no way that anything that happened last night could kill her.

Investigator 2: Okay. Well, just out of protocol I need you to stand up for me and put your hands behind your back.

George Huguely: [stands up and puts arms behind back, handcuffs put on]

Investigator 1: Relax

Investigator 2: Relax, it will be fine.

George Huguely: Tell me she’s not dead, tell me she’s not dead, no, please. Will you tell me she’s not dead?

Investigator 1: Relax

George Huguely: Please will you tell me she’s not dead?

Investigator 1: You know what, I wish I could tell you that George. Twenty two years old. Twenty two and her life is done.

George Huguely: Oh my god. Kill me.

Investigator 2: [inaudible]

George Huguely: [inaudible] anything that could do that.  I did not do anything that could have killed her.

Investigator 1: You do realize you are under arrest?

George Huguely: I realize that.

Investigator 1: Alright. We’re going to contact the commonwealth attorney on the proper charge but it’s going to be related to her death.

George Huguely: She’s dead? How? There’s no way. Oh my god. There’s no way she would be dead. There’s no way, oh my God, there’s no way. There’s no way, there’s no way, there’s no way. I don’t believe it.

Investigator 2: It’s true.

George Huguely: I don’t believe it. How?

Investigator 2: Help us understand what happened last night, George. Start over from the beginning.

George Huguely: I’m not lying to you. Everything I said to you was so true. I’m not lying to you about anything.

Investigator 2: She had a tee shirt on?

George Huguely: Yeah. I am most confident I think, I’m pretty sure, yeah. Was her tee-shirt not on when…

Investigator 1: We’re not going to tell you that

[cross talk]

Investigator 2: Help us understand what happened last night, George. Go over it again.

George Huguely: I told you everything. I told you everything. I, I, I don’t, I don’t even believe it yet. I do not believe it. I do not believe it. I don’t believe it.

Investigator 2: Okay.

Investigator 1: Just a second [stands up and leaves]

George Huguely: But there’s no way. There’s no way sir. Sir,  there’s no way she’s dead. There’s no way. There’s no way, there’s no way.

Investigator 2: It’s true, George.

George Huguely: How? How? [inaudible] There’s no. There’s no way. There’s no way she could be dead.

Investigator 2: Why do you think you’re sitting here in hand cuffs?

George Huguely: For, for, for, maybe what you guys said were assault charges?

Investigator 2: She’s dead, I’m not lying to you.

George Huguely: You would have said murder charges if you were lying, if you were honest you would have said murder charges.

Investigator 2: She was assaulted.

George Huguely: You would have said murder charges.

Investigator 2: That resulted in her death.

George Huguely: You would have said I murdered her. You would have said I murdered. Did she die this morning? Afterwards?

Investigator 2:  I can’t tell you that.

George Huguely: I know but listen I didn’t murder her [stomps foot] I didn’t murder her. I didn’t. I know she’s not dead. I know she’s not dead, I know she’s not dead, I know she’s not dead, I know she’s not dead. There’s no way she’s dead.

Investigator 2: Calm down, George.

George Huguely: There’s no way she’s dead. There’s no way. There can’t be any way she’s dead from any, there can’t be any way she’s dead. I’m telling you, there’s no way she’s dead. You have to be lying to me. Tell me you’re lying to me, tell me you’re lying to me, tell me you’re lying to me. How’s she dead?

Investigator 2: I’m not lying to you.

George Huguely: How is she dead? How is she dead? How? What did she die from?

Investigator 2: Well, we’re going to find out.

George Huguely: What did she die from?

Investigator 2: We’re going to find out. I can’t make that determination.

George Huguely: Sir, Sir…

Investigator 2: Either head trauma or asphyxiation.

George Huguely: There was no asphyxiation.

Investigator 1: Okay.

George Huguely: Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Investigator 2: And I know you told me the truth but I think there are some part you’re leaving out.

George Huguely: Nah, sir.

Investigator 2: How did she get all of that head trauma?

George Huguely: From banging.

Investigator 2: I don’t believe that. I don’t believe she banged her own head in the wall.

George Huguely: When we were wrestling, I don’t believe she’s dead. I don’t believe she’s dead. There’s no way she’s dead. There’s no way she’s dead. She has to be alive, she has to be alive, she has to. There’s no way. She wasn’t. There’s no way. There’s no way. The last I saw her she was not dead, she was not dead. [inaudible]

Investigator 2: What was she doing the last time you saw her?

George Huguely: She was like, she was like standing up with me. She was standing up with me. She was standing up with me, looking at me.

Investigator 2: Was she standing or were you holding her?

George Huguely: She was standing up looking at me. I don’t believe it, I do not believe it. I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it. Sir, I don’t believe it. Sir, Sir, please tell me you’re lying.

Investigator 2: I’m not lying. She’s dead.

George Huguely: How is she dead? How? How? How?

Investigator 2: That’s what I wanted you to clarify.

George Huguely: How? How?

Investigator 2: You know how.

George Huguely: No, I didn’t know. No, no, no. No, I didn’t know. No, no, no.

Investigator 2:  Why didn’t you know?

George Huguely: She’s not dead, she’s not dead. She’s not dead, I know she’s not dead. [cries with head down, inaudible cries]

Investigator 2: I know it got out of control last night, George.

George Huguely: She’s not dead. She’s not dead. She’s not dead. I know one hundred [inaudible crying] I didn’t [inaudible crying] She can not be dead. You’re not lying to me either, are you? You’re not lying to me. She’s dead? Oh my God.

Investigator 2: I know it got out of hand, George.

George Huguely: It didn’t, it didn’t, it didn’t, it didn’t, it didn’t, it didn’t, it did not, it didn’t, it didn’t, I…

Investigator 2: Then what happened?

George Huguely: I didn’t kill her. I did not kill her. I did not kill her. I did not. I did not. I did not kill her.

Investigator 2: Did you smack her head one time too hard?

George Huguely: I never hit her, no. [inaudible] on the ground.

Investigator 2: Did you smack her head then lay her on the bed so she could kind of relax?

George Huguely: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Investigator 2: Well you didn’t punch her because I don’t think you would have done that.

George Huguely: No, no, no, no. I still do not believe it. Sir, I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it, I don’t believe it. You came in and said you were filing an assault charge and that makes sense but that doesn’t even make sense. That doesn’t even make sense.

Investigator 2: She was assaulted and she died.

George Huguely: No way, no way, no way, no way, no way.

Investigator 2: And you were there, this happened while you were there. This is the time to man up, George. Tell me what happened.

George Huguely: I told you what happened, I told you what happened, I told you what happened.

Investigator 2: Then what happened again?

George Huguely: I told you what happened, I told you what happened.

Investigator 1: It got out of control.

George Huguely: It didn’t. I told you what happened. It didn’t get out of control. She’s not dead, she’s not dead, she’s not dead. There’s no way she’s dead. There’s no way! I didn’t do! No way! There’s no way!